{"id":488,"date":"2016-02-10T12:36:57","date_gmt":"2016-02-10T04:36:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/projectkeira.com\/home\/?p=488"},"modified":"2021-03-27T16:45:58","modified_gmt":"2021-03-27T08:45:58","slug":"suspension-down-travel-notes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.projectkeira.com\/home\/suspension-down-travel-notes\/","title":{"rendered":"Down Travel Notes."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A forum member asked me about the <strong>front\u00a0down travel <\/strong>with my suspension setup. When I got home after work earlier today I pulled the floor jack and measuring tape out and took some measurements, I was interested myself to see how much extended travel my custom <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/projectkeira.com\/home\/?p=457\">King Off-Road Front Coilovers<\/a><\/strong> gave me:<\/p>\n<p>First, the baseline &#8211; with the truck on a flat surface (important to note that my sway bar is removed here) I measured the gap between the center-top of the tire to the center (highest point) of the front fender.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_489\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-489\" style=\"width: 800px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-489\" src=\"https:\/\/projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop1.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop1-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop1-768x576.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-489\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Fender gap to tire, at rest.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_490\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-490\" style=\"width: 800px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-490\" src=\"https:\/\/projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop2.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop2-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop2-768x576.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-490\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Actual gap measurement.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>So the \u201cstatic\u201d fender gap came out to 6-7\/8\u201d. Next I put the floor jack under the frame right behind the front-left wheel and jacked the truck up until the front-left tire was suspended (I could spin the wheel freely in the air):<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_491\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-491\" style=\"width: 800px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-491\" src=\"https:\/\/projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop3.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop3.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop3-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop3-768x576.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-491\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">After dropping the wheel to maximum extension.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_492\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-492\" style=\"width: 800px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-492\" src=\"https:\/\/projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop4.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop4.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop4-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop4-768x576.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-492\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Actual measurement.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The gap went up to 8-1\/2\u201d, which after some simple math told me that my down travel is exactly 1-5\/8\u201d at the wheel. While here I noticed that my <a href=\"https:\/\/projectkeira.com\/home\/?p=451\"><strong>Total Chaos UCAs<\/strong><\/a> were resting on the bump stops, and the bump stops were resting on top of the coil bucket. So that got me thinking: it looks like I could squeeze some more travel if I remove the bump stops so I unbolted them from the UCAs and then raised the front end again to see what happened:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_493\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-493\" style=\"width: 800px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-493\" src=\"https:\/\/projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop5.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop5.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop5-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop5-768x576.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-493\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">You can see the bump stop I removed, sitting on the tire.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Hey now &#8211; the gap went up to 9-1\/2\u201d, meaning just by removing the bump stops I gained another inch of wheel \u201cdroop\u201d, so now I had 2-5\/8\u201d down travel at the wheel. I checked some important areas for any contact, and this is what I found:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_494\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-494\" style=\"width: 800px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-494\" src=\"https:\/\/projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop6.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop6.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop6-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop6-768x576.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-494\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">No coil bucket contact at full droop.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>First (photo above), at full droop the Total Chaos UCA bump stop plate was NOT touching the coil bucket. This told me that it was the <a href=\"https:\/\/projectkeira.com\/home\/?p=457\"><strong>King shocks<\/strong><\/a> that were limiting the down travel, which if fine because that means no coil bucket contact if I drop a wheel into a deep rut or something. Also note in the photo above that the UCA\u2019s uniball area has ample clearance from the coil bucket lip.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_495\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-495\" style=\"width: 800px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-495\" src=\"https:\/\/projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop7.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop7.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop7-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop7-768x576.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-495\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Just enough lower spring seat clearance.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Second (photo above), at full droop the King shocks were the correct length to ensure that the lower spring seat did not contact the front drive shafts. So I don\u2019t have to worry about notching the driveshaft like I\u2019ve seen some others experience with other shocks.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_496\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-496\" style=\"width: 800px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-496\" src=\"https:\/\/projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop8.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop8.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop8-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.projectkeira.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/raine_ft_droop8-768x576.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-496\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tie rod has ample room for movement before any binding happens.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>And third (photo above) &#8211; I looked at the steering tie rod ball end, and it\u2019s fine; it isn\u2019t maxed out on angle, and there\u2019s still a lot of room for tie rod rotation available even at the ride height I have my truck at. So with the bump stops I have 1-5\/8\u201d of down travel available, and that jumps up an extra inch to 2-5\/8\u201d of down travel when the bump stops are removed.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A forum member asked me about the front\u00a0down travel with my suspension setup. 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